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- Dec 11 2007
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Think about this:
It's Monday, February 11, 2008 -- just two months from today and you're getting ready to introduce your new product to the online world.
But before you can tell people about your product or name your price...
- 60,552 unique visitors have already visited your blog to learn whatever they can about you and your new product
- 374 other blogs are buzzing about you
- More than 43,200 prospects have already watched at least one of nearly 200 videos that your prospects have just made about you posted online
- And 39,730 highly qualified prospects have opted in to your house list to make sure they're among the first to know when your new product is released.
A fantasy? Absolutely not. This is precisely what's happened since I released The Attention Age Volume Two just 13 short days ago!
Want to know what all the fuss is about?
Check this video out and tell me what you think might prevent you from being the maven of your market....
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Anyone can learn from this product launch. I know I was waiting for it.
Rich I love you man do your thing. I have learned so much from you, just to let you Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly man. This is was the first thing that struck me about this awesome and remarkable launch. I asked myself - “What can I learn from this that will have a positive effect in my own business?”
I think I’ve gleaned a couple of ideas that will help in my local business.
Thanks.
Every time Rich comes out with a new program I take a few ideas and apply them to my business and it grows. I can’t wait for this new program. Copy Doodles TV
Sorry Rich,
The video is two minutes too long, can’t be accepted into the competition
This is going to be a must have in every marketers training library.
You asked what might be preventing me from becoming the maven of my market…in a single word…”you.”
In today’s world, it’s not just the idea or concept that you have that you want to develop that’s going to bring your success, it’s timing, it’s having a project team comprised of experts in many areas of IM, SEO, web-page creation, offline marketing etc., it’s having name recognition, it’s having the funding and many other aspects that the newbie just doesn’t possess. Buying all of the expensive, fancy-wrapped products in the world isn’t going to make it happen either.
So to answer your question, there are many things that prevent me from becomming the maven of my market. Do I have a concept that could become the next eBay, Amazon, or Google of it’s kind….yes I do. Will the world ever see this come to fruition and benefit from it….highly unlikely….unless
The near-sighted gurus forget that they were lucky enough to have entered into the Interent World at a time when it was wide open. They were able to gain a foothold, make a few dollars, and create a name for themselves when it was quite simple to do so. Every day it becomes far more costly and more complex, and next to impossible to do.
If only there was a truly honest person in one of those fortunate positions who really cared enough to want to get involved in brain-storming sessons that led to partnerships, that led to successful web-based businesses. Someone who offered their name power, their already developed team of highly skilled web designers, and their marketing machine, to assist people who have incredible concepts that can not only make a great deal of money, but would also provide multiple benefits to mankind and the planet….if only.
But once the existing mavens smell the money, that’s all that seems to matter. It’s just, “what kind of new project can I develop that will make me lots of easy money at the expense of the desperate people seeking the impossible dream?” You know as well as I do that 98% of the people who plunck their money down don’t have a snowballs chance of ever making it, yet you keep pushing the same “Get rich quick schemes” over and over again.
Do any gurus have a conscious? Don’t any of them ever feel a desire to show their gratitude to a higher power, their family and friends, all of the people who have purchsed their products, or just their own humanity? Why in good God’s name doesn’t just one of you guys step up to the plate and say, “I don’t want to fake it any longer. I really do care about people who are trying to make it. I’m going to develop a real live think tank where people can come together with their ideas and their talents and I’m going to work with them to develop the next generation of Internet Enterprise.”
And to beat all hell, you don’t charge people to become a part of this. I know that goes against everything that runs through your veins, but that’s my point. Who will have the balls to do this? I mean go totally against your culture. Will it be you….? Most likely not, but whomever it is, will be the top dog of Internet Marketing for the next 30 years or longer.
Why do I think this is so? Because, just like an author, song writer, or anyone else, you have one or two great ideas, a few good ideas, and that’s it. What happens after that? Why not come together with the people who posses the next really great concepts and offer the gifts that you’ve been blessed with, to create several really meaningful businesses that bring in money for you, and really and truly benefit others?
If you hold all of your cards close to your vest, pretty soon there’s no one who will play with you.
Most people have had enough time to begin to see the pattern of what it is they’re being fed. It’s the same, just a different package. The new package fools a few of the fools for a short time, but eventually everyone has been fooled once too often, and no one is buying. The gurus count on the P T Barnum belief that a sucker is born every minute.
The very medium that you use to sell your wares is the same medium that educates the idiots, and it educates them much quicker every day. So are you just one of them….? Or are you the hundreth monkey? If you don’t break away and really become original, someone else will. Of that you can be sure!
So instead of offering a pie-in-the-sky, one chance in a million, very expensive, newly wrapped, isn’t going to get you anywhere, programs, offer the real thing, offer yourself. Not a overly-priced, digital, paper, or plastic product but the real ticket to becoming a market mavin…yourself. Impossible you say….I think not.
I’m offering myself to work with you on making this concept a reality. If you don’t want to do it, someone else will.
Much Real Success,
Dennis Tays
Powerful words Dennis. I’m sure you don’t want to lay your cards out on the table in this forum, but I’m curious as to the niche that you are focusing on or wanting to pursue. It sounds as if you have the fire in your gut for something great.
Hey Dennis Tays!
I liked your comments.
Who says you have to wait for one of the big guys (e.g. gurus) to come along and share?
Sharing for most is just another “marketing tactic” that’s employed to make the Maven look good, attract attention, and keep the students’ eye off the ball.
Why not get together with a bunch of us who — each in his own right — “know” most of this stuff. Together (and perhaps with some help from Rich and/or Mr. Abraham etc.) we can make it happen for ALL OF US, and for those who would truly like to “share” the ‘how-to’ of it all, and make the world a better place… that option will still be wide open.
Dennis, contact me by email, (roymacnaughton ‘at’ gmail.com) and let’s talk of how we can make this happen…even if only one of us is able to get into Rich’s program.
Roy
hey dennis,
i personally believe your words to be the truth.
why do these gurus hide behind a wall of money??
i think rich schefren is a brilliant man and i have much respect for him…
… but do you think he wrote the e-book and supplies it for free because he wants to help us??
maybe… but most likely he did it to build a list for future products and services.
remember when you downloaded the book??… you had to give your name and e-mail address.
after you downloaded the book you received an e-mail and were uploaded into his “list”.
if you study his auto-responder messages… his marketing tactics… his follow-up… his blog entries…
… they are geared to make you feel comfortable… to make you feel a sense of rapport… a sense of understanding… a sense of urgency…
… they are geared to make you feel as though you NEED the next step– Acceleration Training.
listen folks… i’m not bad-talking rich or his strategies…
… instead, i’m opening your eyes to one of the most impressive marketing secrets known in the internet marketing world…
… it’s called — LEVERAGE!
the video contest was masked with the potential to win a prize… a grand prize… a super-grand prize…
… but only 4 people win.
what do you think happens to the others??
well, in a nice way… they become free-marketing for rich’s products and services.
ACTION TO TAKE: study rich’s next few moves carefully
BENEFIT YOU WILL GET: an understanding of how to create a million dollar marketing campaign
=RonReed=
p.s. — … if you think this is hard work… re-read the doctrine and evaluate your own perception of it’s value…
… record YOUR version on audio and transfer the words to text…
… organize the text into an e-book and give it away for free.
build a list… and then upsell the list to your private coaching/mentoring or launch a seminar teaching the principles of Web 2.0 marketing.
BINGO! you’ll generate a very substanial amount of money.
(( and if you don’t think people will pay that amount… then you’re mistaken! by hiring a well-known speaker to attend the event and pay them for their time… you will get people in the door. ))
again, i think rich schefren is a brilliant man and a mentor to millions (including me!)…
… you can guarantee i will be at one of the Acceleration Trainings.
why?? not because i want to learn this information…
… no, no, no… i will be there to network with other like-minded individuals and study the strategies that rich uses “behind-the-scenes” as this product is released to the general public.
to rich: thank you, my jedi-master!
=RonReed=
Right - On Ron!
If someone out there is going through this launch feeling ’scammed’, then I’m afraid you entered this process with Eyes Wide Shut…
The strategies employed throughout is shear marketing genius - each step a lesson unto itself and so far, completely FREE.
Many, relatively unknown marketers have been savvy to enough gain some of their own recognition on the coat-tails of this launch - for FREE.
And Dennis - due to your post - you have likeminded people wanting to contact you. ~ All Good!
Can’t afford the product, don’t want it, don’t need it, whatever…. you don’t have to buy it. Man this is a great country!
I wish the greatest success and satisfaction to all,
~Schelli
Hi Dennis, awesome stuff me man. Good on you, actually, we need more guys like yourself, me too and many more others.
At the end of the day, when our time here on earth is due, all our real estate will be reduced to a box known as the “cxffin”, without any exception.
However, having said that, there is this extreme and unique opportunity of investing our treasures in a mansion where the streets are lined in gold. Plus, it will last forever.
For meantime though, lets lets receive all the help from guys like Rich, so we could in turn be able to invest in more souls to ensure they also find their blessed destination.
Yes, we hav much luv and hope to share out to a dying and lost multitudes. Best also, WE could do it with hearts of full of real humility.[An encouragement for all of us.]
Bro, keep up the good works.
God Bless. [ Paul ]
just the comments I was looking for.
thanks so much
Dennis:
I believe that many marketers start out with the “code” that you are referring too, but get lost in the fame and greed that being a “maven” can bring. You want to filter through the “same maven’s ” to find the right marketer that would be willing to work with you. You’ve got to make a “compelling pitch” to them, so it’s a win-win situation for everyone.
If you want it bad enough, you’ll stop complaining and make a plan or a goal to make this “grand scheme” possible. You’d be surprised at how many marketers’ would be interested. That would make them “The Grand Master of All Marketer’s”.
Now that would be hard to walk away from…
Thanxs for opportunity to express my views.
BHJ
Dennis your venting for a good reason. As for your preminitions of a dooms day for the type of bull crap internet marketers you’ve so keenfully descibed… you may find that it will come sooner than anticipated. It only takes a single voice to sound the call for change and things will happen. I’m hoping in the not to distant future to blaze a path of free information for all to share.
I’m not a Guru of the internet but I am someone with 35 years business experience who is gathering the information and tools necessary to truly help those that need it….for free. I respect the accomplishment of every successful entreprenuer unless they earn it on the backs of others and then brag about their success as a form of encouragement. The Wal Marts of the internet are gathering fame today but even “free” beats their price. You don’t need to climb into bed with the lion. Just keep the faith and focus on your goals, they will come.
Don
I like the idea of like-minded people getting together to form an alliance dedicated to play co-operatively, to freely share our individual knowledge, wisdom and inspiration with each other that we might all accomplish more together than we ever could have on our own. By playing so all win, we model a new way of learning, teaching, and becoming successful together.
You can count me in. I’m game!
Bonnie Dubrow
Oh come on Dennis…the “woe is me” attitude is likely to be the very thing that stops you.
Rich certainly ‘ain’t ‘lucky’…other than to have maybe realised when he was getting lucky….right?
Am I the only one to remember his JV’s with Stephen Pierce…Carlton etc etc
Am I the only one to remember what he was up to before the MANIFESTO? surely!
Here’s another question…do you think Rich had Attention Doctrine planned BEFORE Manifesto??? (now there’s an interesting one).
I’ve heard pretty much every marketing/business expert say these words:
“You’ve got to take and use what’s useful and discard the rest…”
Nobody…NO - BODY can make you feel, think or DO anything…you do that all by yourself.
Attention is NOT a ‘thing’ it’s a process on an analogue scale…Rich missed that.
You DO attention…you ‘attend to…’ - you don’t HAVE it or not.
It’s just a game.
I’ve played it for a couple of minutes by posting here…now I’m not playing again here for a while…would rather start DOING.
J.
Dennis,
I feel for you , unfortunately themajority of people you refer to as idiots dont want to know the truth!!!!! they prefer to be gift wrapped, hence the old saying sell the sizzle not the stake.I run workshops seminars and training on sales, investments, personaldevelopment, bussiness etc and tried the format you are espousing…..unfortunately no one was interested in learning how to do it correctly and to make money they just wanted the quick fix the instant gratification… so that is why all the gurus you candidly refer to dont bother any more they just give you the sizzle and let you figure it out for your self sort of sink or swim… the stuff on this site is very interesting and i have implemented just one idea with minimal cost and fantastic results… so i dont subscribe to your comment that you need buckets of money to get it happening..i started with zip and built a multimillin dollar bussiness with ideas from sites like this one and tom hopkins and others… so can you, and the great thing is its free.. to learn more with greater depth go to there seminars ,worshops ,tutorials etc sure these cost but the investment is well worth it.
regards
brian norton
Dennis - I’ve been teaching those new to the net how to do things online to make money since 1999. And even back then very very few people succeeded. We GAVE them everything they needed - free mentoring, free tutorials, free resources, everything was F R E E. We brainstormed in chat sessions, on live broadcasts, at industry events. And STILL 90% of them failed.
Why? They not only wanted it for free, they wanted it gift wrapped and handed to them on a silver platter! They just wanted to deposit the checks and drive the fancy car and have the gorgeous girl on their arm in six weeks or less. Without working for it or learning the basics and building up to more advanced things. With no effort - just bend over and pick up the cash.
Even back then making money online was WORK. Hard work, often boring work. And constant learning. WE didn’t outsource, we learned how to do it ourselves. And so did every other successful webmaster of the time.
There are three things needed for success on the net - the willingness to work - HARD, the ability to learn, and apprenticing yourself to someone who has “made it”. Whether you’re using someone’s list for your product, or buying a successful site’s exit traffic - you need to rub elbows with the folks on top or you’ll never be on top. And if you ignore the pearls of wisdom that drop from their mouths whether you’ve paid for those pearls or obtained them for free, you do so at your own peril.
Stop making lame excuses, stop whining because you aren’t on top yet, come into the real world of the net and start learning from anyone who is willing to teach you.
If you have another Google or UTube in your mind - you’re in the wrong place - you need to put together a business plan and talk to the venture capitalists. If you’re trying to build an internet business without learning how to do business on the net - you’re doomed to failure. And it’s your own failure, no one elses. Everything you need to be successful is online somewhere - all you have to do is apply yourself, learn it, then practice it.
And if you really think all that will come together and you’ll be rolling in cash next week then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d just love to sell you!
Absolutely agree. Maybe people just like you and me can get together and I’m sure between us all we will have just as good a chance as the big guys.
Yes.. they did get in when the going was very good. Yes.. it’s a lot harder now they have a foothold on the market,and email lists to die for.
But is it impossible to join them?
I don’t think so. It just requires thinking outside the square, and if that means people who we have never met contributuing their skills for the benefit of the whole, then I say go for it. I’m sure there’s those who are reading this blog right now who have all the skills you need to launch a product and make it really succesful. We all know HOW to do it, it’s just a matter of a lot of us just don’t have the reasources available to us like the bug guns have.
Impossible No.
Absolutely agree. Maybe people just like you and me can get together and I’m sure between us all we will have just as good a chance as the big guys.
Yes.. they did get in when the going was very good. Yes.. it’s a lot harder now they have a foothold on the market,and email lists to die for.
But is it impossible to join them?
I don’t think so. It just requires thinking outside the square, and if that means people who we have never met contributuing their skills for the benefit of the whole, then I say go for it. I’m sure there’s those who are reading this blog right now who have all the skills you need to launch a product and make it really succesful. We all know HOW to do it, it’s just a matter of a lot of us just don’t have the reasources available to us like the big guns have.
Impossible No.
Dennis,
Grow up. You hold yourself back….I’m 27 and have a successful marketing company and real estate brokerage plus I just got accepted to Med school……..
Don’t blame other people for your inability to create success in your industry! Guru’s provide tools you provide execution…..or in your case “NOT”!
Viper
PT Barnum never said “there’s a sucker born every minute” … if you’re going to quote someone, for goodness sake, please quote him or her correctly. (check out what Wikipedia has to say about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There’s_a_sucker_born_every_minute)
If you had left an url or an e-mail, I think you would have received genuine offers of assistance.
Some excellent points, actually.
And yet, each of us has to play the cards we are dealt.
No doubt that some people win the lottery the day they are born, whether that is in money, brains, good looks, height, or whatever else amounts to an edge. Others seem to have just gotten to the right place at the right time.
Taking from the financial world of trading, the challenge is to find YOUR edge. It’s very tempting to say “if I only was on the trading floor”, “if I only had more money in my account”, etc. But name any situation and someone has figured out what they have that the other guy doesn’t, be it the ability to trade low volume issues that the big guys can’t or using systems that take a kind of analysis that the guys in the chaos of the floor don’t have time to do, or . . . .
If indeed you do have a great idea, then judging from my own knack for setting up roadblocks for myself and then explaining them with reasons that even I, (especially I?) , can’t see through, my guess is that a course in the secrets of getting your head and heart aligned with your purpose and then sticking with it would be better than one on internet marketing.
If you know of such a course, let me know. I’ll take it too.
Wow! you seriously think it was easier years ago? No way!
I have been full-time online for 8 years this January and I think it is about 1,000 times easier to make it these days than it was 8 years ago.
What you need to do is take responsibility for your life! “The power of an idea is in it’s implementation!”
Quit coming up with excuses and focus on ‘doing’ something to market your business every day.
Rich-
Those numbers in your email made me shiver! $2-3Million in your Paypal account??? And you’ve done it four times already in the past 18 months? That’s what I want!
Thanks for the inspiration!
Your Business Acceleration video is powerful. I have about 300 folks that have downloaded The Attention Age Doctrine 2 as of today and I can envision a large percentage of them plugging into the Business Acceleration training. This excites me not because of any commission, but because many of these are colleagues that will be able to explode their/our businesses. Serve others and the results will follow. Thanks Rich for your wonderful example and mentoring.
You got my attention. I’m getting ready to launch a book with a set of corresponding information products in February ‘08. Where can I learn more?
Bud Bilanich
The Common Sense Guy
I agree that much of Rich’s publicity comes from the fact that it is - after all - Rich Schefren.
However, we do need to acknowledge that 3 years ago, he wasn’t on the scene like he is now. We have to admit that Rich knew which levers to pull, and he has done it very successfully.
Calvin Close
Mining Marketing
Is there a way to become an affiliate of the AAD2 downloads and Business Acceleration programs? Seems like there are a few out there, but I haven’t seen how to be a part of it.
Thanks.
Steve
You can’t its a secret club where the in-crowd of “Gurus” get to promote each others products while they are really hot. That is how they earn so much, by looking after each other. You can join if you become a guru but not before
To be an affiliate, go to
http://www.strategicprofits.com/makemoney
if that does not work you ill have to call them.
Dan
Rich,
What would prevent me? the lack of planning/understanding the process (the strategy rather than the tactic)
I would like to think, that nothing would stop- if a speed bump came up- would find away around, through or over it.
Hope to catch up with you and Brian at the event.
Paul
http://www.SEOTrainingLive.com/
What will prevent me from being the next maven in my marketing niche?
My own fear of failing. I’ve experienced it over and over again. Now it just sits out there and haunts me.
Failure to take action would be the next thing preventing me.
If buying Rich’s next product/service/coaching/whatever would help, then I’d throw in that a lack of financial resources would prevent me. (No, I don’t have credit cards to throw at this thing. No, I don’t have the cash.)
Of course, those are all the typical excuses. I’m no different than the next guy.
What I’m doing is what’s been mentioned above…reading, studying, doing all that I can to learn from Rich as he plies his trade on us. Then, I’ll do what I can within the means I have to duplicate it.
Ditto to Coach Mikes post above…
I won’t go over everything Couch Mike said but having the fear of failure and non implimentation of yet another program after all of my previous product/lessons purchases would really hurt..both financially and emotionally..
All typical excuses I know…
Help me break out of this mess..Please!!
I think this is VERY enticing!! But how do you do this without the financial resources. We need to be bringing the money into our business that you talk about being able to make Rich. Especially with the economy the way it is now our business has slowed down significantly. How can we get into this to profit and make our business grow so quickly over a 48 hour period. HELP…….
Heidi
Rich:
Your Acceleration program looks very exciting! Will it be a seminar or program that you have to join? If it is a seminar of some kind will you be bringing it to Phoenix?
Mari
Jason Finch
Mari,
I have attended a lot of these seminars over the years and one just recently from a over hyped so-called guru.
What happens when you attend? They have a bunch of different speakers and each speaker gives you a little bit of useful information but not much just a little bit to get you to buy their program. They show you a bit of useful information then they try to sell the Hell out of whatever program they are trying to promote! I have never attended one of the Strategic Profits seminars but from what I have heard it’s all the same.
Good luck.
Well Dennis, it’s like this! ‘The Rich just keep getting Richer’
I couldn’t agree more with you in a lot of the stuff you wrote and the thing is, I am such a newbie, I didn’t even know you were ‘allowed’ to be able to write about your feelings so openly in the first place. I understand where you are coming from intensely.You oughta try living in another country where getting to all these ‘next best Guru seminars’ is just not practical from many aspects, never mind the cost!…and yes of course it’s a ‘marketing ploy’ for creating the Doctrine in the first place but at least Rich gives you something along the way to learn from before the ‘hit’ comes. Now youv’e got Joel Comm doing TV deals for the whole world to get in on his production so if you think it’s tough now…look out! It’s almost like we are too late already to make any real headway with the explosion surge that is coming but there’s always hope right? Me too!..with a great concept that ‘will work’ and God could I do with some help to make it happen. (I can’t even clear my cookies..you know what I saying)…The smartest thing Rich could do is to partner with every ‘real deal’ out there. He’s got the team,talent and the money. He would make more ‘moolah’ overall, be a real live hero to the battlers and hopefuls of this harsh new world and would put a lot of the ‘greedy Guru’s’ back in their box!
Then again…would he dare!….what’s he really all about anyway? That inner circle must be pretty powerful you know!
Hey! Rich,
I’m excited about this MAN!
Thanks’
Albert
Want to say this is greatest interesting I’ve ever seen.
Wow…
I don’t even know where to start. It seems many of you are either misinformed or misdirected…
Jason, Strategic Profits has never hosted an event where ANYTHING has been sold from the stage – NOT ONE THING! So you might want to check where you “heard” that, because it’s simply not true and I challenge you to prove me wrong.
And here are some words of wisdom for you… It’s not what you don’t know that’ll hurt you - it’s what you think you know that you don’t.
Next, Dennis…
I am not going to rain on your dreams or your delusions of grandeur. The truth is you’re waiting for charity, or a handout - and here’s a real world wake-up call for you…
Anyone can be successful if they have a good plan and are willing to work hard. The “Gurus” you speak of got to their current positions the same way.
Your argument about Gurus getting online when it was “easy†- is your own excuse for your current results (or lack of them). I know that’s harsh – but it’s true.
If you want to lie to yourself (and rationalize your failure to achieve what you want) go ahead, but please don’t infect others here, on my blog – I SIMPLY REFUSE TO BE YOUR ACCOMPLICE IN SPREADING YOUR MIND-VIRUS!
Hey listen, according to your logic why stop with gurus? Why not be mad at Amazon for not giving you free books (they were lucky enough to sell books online earlier than others)… or Google for not giving you free advertising (they were lucky to gain critical mass early on)… or your local car dealership for not giving you a car as a stake in your new business (they were lucky to gain the dealership rights before you).
Think that all sounds crazy? Those examples are no more or less unreasonable than you expecting (actually more like “demandingâ€) that I give you free help on an endless basis until you achieve success.
But that’s not my main point - here it is….
If your success requires someone else to dedicate their resources to get you to the level of success you dream about – it’s not going to happen. Anyone who is successful will tell you the same.
Of course, you are entitled to your own opinion, as I am mine. So, if I had to answer the question for you - I would say the biggest obstacle to your own success is “YOU” not me, nor anyone else.
I suggest you pick up the book Atlas Shrugged (by Ayn Rand… you can get it at Amazon, but it’s not free, you actually have to pay for it) and read it.
I know, you’re probably thinking I should summarize it for you, that I should focus my personal resources (my brain, my sight, my time) and do the reading, thinking, etc… for you. That’s consistent with you expecting a business to allocate its resources for your success. Why shouldn’t I do the same personally, right? There really is no difference.
If your concept has merit you will eventually meet with success. So I guess time will be the best judge.
One last thing, I am very proud of the work I do.
My free reports, free videos, free webinars, free teleseminars have impacted the lives of hundreds of thousands entrepreneurs worldwide. I receive Thank You cards daily - from clients and non-clients alike.
This broadcast was meant for others from the same mold. People who are willing to invest in their market first, entrepreneurs who see not only the logic in my advice, but also the sense of satisfaction that comes from contributing on a massive level.
But this example highlights a great point: no matter how much you strive… you will never make everyone in your market happy. Some people expect too much (for nothing). If you’re going to be a Maven, you have to be OK with that. I know I am - I am proud of my contributions.
So to wrap this up… if you’re more in line with Dennis than how I am categorizing a Maven, you might want to unsubscribe from my list - and look for a charity of some sort.
Hi Mr. Rick,
I believe your Business Acceleration Program, more one time,
will go to fill a lack in Internet Business.
The need unique and high level content indeed demand very effort and time, which constitute problem main your Program
must to present a solution.
Succeed,
Jose
Great reply Rich!
I just found this page after downloading your report and was surprised to see the opening posts.
Please, “NO WHINERS!”
I don’t currently have the resources to attend the guru seminars. I do have an email to receive the quality content that some Mavens provide. And Rich is leading the parade to provide great educational material for free.
Thank you! I appreciate you doing this!
And yes, it is great marketing, just as you teach. I’ll be back to purchase your products as my income grows from what I learn from your free material.
If you folks don’t like what you receive when you subscribe to a site, just unsubscribe and move on.
I’ve already learned a lot from Rich. I love his commitment and passion, his insights and the wealth of truly valuable information on his blog.
Most of all I choose to model his Attitude!
Can do!
Work smart!
Network brilliantly!
Offer real value! It comes back in spades!
Do you folks wanting a handout really believe that guys like him need a great idea? And that you have it?
Well done Rich! Keep up your amazing orbit.
You deserve ALL your success!
Carl
Rich,
I second your reply to Dennis…
I learned about you only last fall when I was fortunate enough to be introduced to you via a Mike Filsaime Email… Back in NOV 2006.
I downloaded your AA Pt.1 and put the stuff in it as well as the Video to application in my Offline/Real World Biz…
“REAL ESTATE”
I got knocked down earlier this year as did most in my industry back in FEB of 2007. largely due to one of my main lender’s, a Sub-prime Bank’s failure.
Disappointed by not dismayed I have been able to take your FREE-STUFF and re-built not only a profitable but INTELLIGENT business.
To add I am making progress and profits in my area where-by most of the other so-called real estate pros are gone away… perhaps competing over job-openings at McD’s>>>?
Anyhow All I can say to anyone out there who is the slightest skeptical of You, RICH is:
GO POUND SAND and Curse the God’s that Bore Your Miserable Asses for the wretched condition they’ve allowed you to remain in!
or
Pick up and APPLY anything and Everything RICH has put out here …FOR FREE and Then Take the BULL By the HORNS and Turn your Financial and Personal Life Around!
RICH Keep Up Doing All of The AWESOME THINGS YOU’VE BEEN DOING…
Cheers!
Derrick Ali
Hi Rich, your reply to Dennis what I like about you, that is,
You are never afraid to speak out the TRUTH.
Rich, you just got me interested. I’ll be reading your posts and I’ll listen what you say. I enjoyed your interview with “wine-guy” Gary (his last name was too difficult for me to remember, sorry..)
Hey Rich and everyone,
amazing video and sure watching this launch is a great learning process. Many times I tell my clients and friends: Don’t do what they say, do what they do.
The use of this blog has been amazing and could easily be copied. Even without having all those people to promote for you. And they can easily be obtained. You know, that’s what JV proposals and friendships are for.
Friendships are mutual Dennis. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. That’s how it works. You shouldn’t expect a Guru to promote you out of the blank. You should get out there and create relationships with those guys you want to JV with.
That’s why networking is so incredibly important.
If you want to get a free example of a JV proposal that got my friend 16 JV partners - and no, it doesn’t require an opt-in — I’m just here to help out, check out my website.
Last but not least… Rich, the Business Growth System member’s area can’t be reached for a few hours now. It says ‘Can’t find server’. Hope you can fix this soon and also attract some activity to the forum, since it’s dead for weeks now!
Just my 2c,
-Dave
I LOVE that Rich came on here and defended his agenda. I LOVE IT! I see both sides but the fact that he is even reading this blog earns him TONS of respect from me. I like to FEEL connected to my mentors and guru’s. I want to know that they care. Not about me as much as they care about what they do and how they do it. If you didn’t think Rich was launching something then you were an idiot. But he packed MASSIVE VALUE into that doctrine. It was TRULY only missing ONE THING. I did my video about it and I meant NO disrespect to Rich. I just wanted and I STILL WANT that ONE THING! (I’m serious Rich…you can email it to me and I PROMISE not to abuse it or give it away!)
Yes, we are in an ATTENTION AGE. Yet there is also an expansion of consciousness that is taking place. While we must BE THERE AND BE THERE WITH VALUE, we must also be connected. So thank you Rich for sticking up for yourself. I WILL BE AT YOUR SEMINAR NO MATTER WHAT. Preferably front row and preferably free! But I will be there in any case!
Thank you for stepping out! I’ve been inspired!
Danny Arrington
One more thing…to Dennis above: You blame the money and the complexity of it all for your own inability to make it “maven style”. You actually blamed Rich himself (and just about everything else under the sun) .
But the truth is that the money, the complexity of it all and Rich have nothing to do with it. My mentor taught me a long time ago that your ability to succeed is a DIRECT REFLECTION of your ability to add MASSIVE USE VALUE to your marketplace. Start there Dennis.
Each day when I wake up I say “what can I do today that adds MASSIVE VALUE” to MY market.
It’s EXACTLY as it should be for you. The time is NOW. Your opportunity RIGHT NOW is unlimited with web2.0, videos, new trends, etc..
Learn and apply it all AS FAST AS YOU CAN. Speed of implementation is key. But if you are busy fighting it and pointing fingers for your lack of vision and focus, then you ain’t doing it.
On another note, since I am committed to going to see Rich…I would like everyone to vote…for me. Thanks! Also, if anyone needs any video help…just contact me. I answer and I keep it simple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F29NLiN2dbI
Peace
Danny
Rich I was a dam good bomber pilot WW2. Survived!Skill & luck. 60 years in business the old fashion way. At 87 I was planning to give the business to loyal employees. Instead I lost it to a crime. I wasn’t watching the bookwork. Business auctioned for the IRS. Deep in debt. Bought Oil and Gas wells to recover. Didn’t work. Faced with poverty and ignorance of the internet and the thrilling systems for marketing you describe. I am trying but internet marketing is blurr to me. BUT I have a product that could bring health to many people, world wide. Need help to market. The product can be down loaded. Then obtained from affiliates or it can be made by the users. Kit to make supplied by affiliate. ( me)
Tested by me 20 yrs. Then 10 years by my company as part of our first aid kit. Available to all enployees on and off the job.
Cured pink eye in 5 year old
Rich,
In the spirit of MAVEN MARKETING…I am going to have a contest of my own. I just can’t figure out what to call it. It’s topic related and furthers the discussion nicely.
Here it is:
TAKE MY $50.00 BY GIVING THIS VIDEO A GOOD TITLE!!!
PUT YOUR TITLE IN THE COMMENTS AND I WILL DO A VIDEO IN 3 DAYS AND ANNOUNCE WINNER AND CONTACT YOU TO GET YOUR ADDRESS.
Payment will be by AMEX gift card to be overnighted on Monday December 17th!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F29NLiN2dbI
Rich,
Great rebuttal!
Something that I have learned is that it all starts with YOU. But if you don’t believe in your own Self worth, your own value, then you become dependent on others. Which is different from BEing interdependent or independent.
What I am trying to say here is that in order for anyone to fulfill their dreams it all starts internally, and to do so you would have to honor who you are and what you are, which would create the belief to bring and add your own unique
gift(s) to this world, your loved ones, and most importantly for your Self.
http://www.thetitusconcept.com
Hi,
I just want to say few words to dennin,
You see dennis, there is nothing wronge in building a list by giving free valuable stuff. Well, if Rich, or any other successful business owner, gives you this valuable info that consumed months of production for FREE to sell you his products later, this doesn’t mean that he doesn’t care about you. In fact, if he doesn’t care, he would either give you a crapy report that consumed no time at all or give you nothing but still sell his products.
You have to remember, at the end this is business and this is how Rich makes a living. Let me ask you this: Would you work for months and months for Rich for free to help him in a project?
Richard worked months and months for FREE to provide us with quality and valuable info that can help you and me and others in building our businesses for FREE.
Yes he requested your name and email address, but he didn’t force you to buy his products after reading the free report. It is still up to you if you want to buy it or not.
If your budget cannot afford buying the program, then keep getting the free reports. and work your business up until you have the budget, then go buy the product.
We all know that only 4 people will win the competition and the rest will provide free advertisement for Rich for FREE, and I am one of the competitors Dennis and I am telling I do know that and I have no problem with it you know why?
Let me give you this story 1st:
2 business men went to africa to sell shoes.
The 1st man returned back disappointed. When asked why, he replied “How can I sell shoes there if no body there wear shoes? There is no market there for my business”
The 2nd man returned very happy. He was asked why. He goes “that was the perfect market for me. No body wear shoes. So when I start selling shoes everybody will buy from me.”
So you see the point Dennis?
We know that we’re providing free advertisment to rich whether we win or not. But we also know that we are piggybacking on him. So, it’s a win-win situation. Maybe we don’t win the prize, but we will win prospects that will help us grow our business and that was all mentioned in Rich’s report.
I wish you good luck and a great growth soon.
Sincerely
Amal
DANNY ARRINGTON IS HIJACKING THIS FORUM
very effectively with his “name that vid contest”!
It’s sort of a mini version of what Rich did. He may not have the pulling power to get us to make videos, but thinking smaller, he has effectively got people competing to name his vid, and for only $50 investment! damn smart!
GRAB A CLUE DENNIS TAYS
and all you whining about money…
It’s all right here for free. Read the manifesto, the doctrine, Gary Vaynerchuck’s mp3, there is an OVERWHELMING amount of free resource… did you devour that yet?
This club of free thinkers you want to start Dennis is just going to be a bunch of whiners.
HOW TO GET A GURU’S ATTENTION FOR JUST $7
easy, just post your genius idea here! Apparantly Rich reads this stuff! If you benefited from that advice you now are morally obligated to pay me $7! heh heh!
TOP 25 AAD VIDEO WINNERS ALREADY ANNOUNCED
I’ve already endured the pain for you!
as chosen by me! click my name to visit my blog. Save yourself hours of watching the hundreds of “thoughtful attempts”
p.s. Danny,
the winning title for your video is waiting for you at my blog, I’ve posted it in the comments below the top 25 videos.
Victory
Thanks for producing a video on how to make a video, Rich.
Re: the competiton, I mentioned I didn’t know how to do one, and a couple of days later, a video on how to appeared.
Really appreciate it.
Cheers,
Gloria
In response to Dennis Tays post, dated Dec. 11
What can I say….I feel COMPELLED to respond to your post. It took courage to speak your mind so candidly and I applaud you for doing so….especially in a venue where the vast majority are posting praise and kudos.
I think you make a very good point though….that it takes MUCH more than a good idea or concept to achieve success, especially for newbies who don’t have the funding (and many other key elements) to become mavens in their markets. And like you, I would LOVE to see one of the already existing mavens step forward and offer THEMSELVES as well as their team of experts (free of charge) to assist those who not only have incredible ideas that could make a great deal of money, but which could provide REAL benefit to mankind and the planet…..and that the selection process NOT be based on who can create the most clever video!
I can understand Schefren’s reasoning to a point….that it’s a means of weeding out those who will take action from those who won’t……but it’s an imperfect system. I’m sure there are people out here who have INCREDIBLE ideas which could benefit the MANY rather than the FEW, but who, for one reason or another, aren’t able to come up with a video in the allotted time….just as I’m sure there are those who WILL come up with videos (maybe even the winning one!) but who don’t have anything of REAL VALUE to offer. Instead, they simply want to make a buck!
As for myself, I fall in the category of someone who has something I believe is genuinely INVALUABLE to offer….I’m talking about information that has the power to benefit virtually EVERY person on the planet (I know many of you might not believe it, but I’m talking about a proven “cure” for the common cold here, developed by a prominent allergy physician and comprised of ingredients that are inexpensive and readily available….and it REALLY WORKS!!). The trouble is, for a couple of reasons, I don’t have time RIGHT NOW to create a video, so I won’t be entering the contest….but I DEFINITELY have plans to share this information with the world, as well as every intention of actually DOING SO. I’ve even written directly to Rich with the details and asked him if he would be interested in helping me market it, however I didn’t receive a response. I’m willing to bet he never saw it….that it simply got lost in the sea of emails, blogs, etc he’s received since he released the “Attention Age Doctrine 2″.
So….like yourself…..I’m putting myself out there and inviting Rich and his team (or anyone else who might be SERIOUSLY interested) to partner up with me to bring this information to the world….in a way that will benefit EVERYONE!! For this information truly IS a gold mine, both in terms of its value to mankind in general, as well as the pocketbook of anyone who is willing to partner up with me on this. Now the only question is….will one of the so-called “gurus” step forward to help me market it POWERFULLY, or will I be left to my own devices to bring it to the world? Either way….it’s GOING to happen!
Cyprogirl, Dennis, and Other like minds,
In your request for a partner to help you get your product to the masses did you mean a money partner, a mentor, a market list, a technical partner, a thinking partner, or maybe someone who will make it possible for your product to get to the people while you stay small and ignorant of the processes involved? I’ve been around for a lot of years and noticed over and over that when a product AND the producer is truly ready, the doors begin to open and the necessary partnerships begin to gel. If you have a product idea that will truly benefit all of mankind, you should be true to that gift you’ve been given and use your spare minutes to get it and yourself ready to pass it on.
Put your energy into identifying the opening market (niche), preparing the sales copy (free instructions abound throughout the web), decide what form it should take as you pass it on. In this world the BEST and fastest way to get a product to the world is to sell it.Thank your Gods that gurus DON”T do all the work for you. If they did you would fail to grow in your capacity to make things happen in the marketing world (surely you don’t want that). It’s never just about what you know or who you know, but how you see yourself and how you put yourself into action steps (however small).
Wishing you the best you can imagine.
Thanks for your comments Joymmor. To answer your question, my “request” for a partner was NOT about getting someone to do the work FOR me, nor about finding someone to just GIVE me the money, a list or simply opening doors for me….or anything like that! I suppose, in hindsight, I ought to have thought more carefully before posting in this blog, as even reading my own words after the fact, I can see how easily my intentions could have been misconstrued. I’ll have to be more careful in the future.
But believe me, I am NOT looking for a free ride here! Nor am I interested in staying “small and ignorant of the processes involved.” In fact, I’ve done my due diligence and put in a tremendous amount of effort over the past year trying to absorb and learn all I can about internet marketing in general, and I HAVE learned a LOT…including identifying my market niche, preparing sales copy…heck I’ve even written an entire BOOK on one of the subjects I plan to introduce. So I HAVE been doing the work to prepare for marketing it!
I’ve also gotten VERY confused in the process, as much of what I’ve studied doesn’t seem to apply to the kind of information I have to offer, all of which comes out of extensive research done by my husband, who is a very brilliant and innovative physician….and all of which will most DEFINITELY benefit a HUGE number of people….and if you want to know what REALLY drives me….it starts and ends with doing my part in making a DIFFERENCE in other people’s lives!!
Anyway, Rich’s Attention Age Doctrine 2 is the FIRST piece of internet marketing information that really RESONATED for me….which is why I’m here! Furthermore, I absolutely INTEND to follow through by signing up for his Business Growth System.
So believe me….I AM working on it, and I firmly believe that my goals WILL be achieved! In the meantime, I’ll just keep plugging away at it!
I can see that several people who have posted comments here are of the mistaken belief that I’m asking for handouts. The truth is, no one has all of the talents and abilities that it takes to create, develop, and grow a successful Internet business.
Some people are good at research, some writing, some web-page development, some SEO, some marketing, etc, but no one is an expert in all of these areas, and today you have to be an expert in all of these areas to make it.
Sure, you can take the time, energy, effort and money to attempt to learn all of these things and apply them. But, in todays world, as fast as you learn one thing and attempt to apply it, then move onto the next aspect, eveything has changed and you have to start all over again.
Even if this weren’t true, why would you attempt to spend a great deal of time, energy, effort and money learning and attempting to do things that you don’t have the skills and talents to perform at the level that these things need to be preformed at to be successful?
In other words, doesn’t it make more sense to partner up with people who possess the skills and talents that you don’t possess? And it’s not just the talents one possess, but it’s also the particular station in life that someone else is at, that you are not at, that will take you years too get to. Does it make more sense to attempt to spend time and money building certain things when someone you could partner with already has those things developed and running? And again, people misunderstand this as well, as I never suggested that I, nor anyone else, would be just taking without contributing something in return.
Sure people can be selfish and self-centered and say, “I created mine, and I don’t give a damn about you, go out and create your own.” Aren’t they cutting their noses off to spite their own faces? Look at projects like traveling to Mars, the US knows that the best way to do this is via cooperation, not telling smaller, “less developed” countries they aren’t invited to participate and benefit in what we already have.
All I’m trying to say is, that in today’s world, it takes cooperation to be really successful, especially if you want to do it quicker, more efficiently, and more effectively. So why wouldn’t the gurus want to work with “less developed” individuals to make newer, bigger, and more meaningful projects a reality? The only reason is, they can’t see beyond the end of their noses. They only want to cooperate with their guru buddies. Why is that?
It just blows my mind that people can’t see this, aren’t concerned, and don’t expect more for their hard earned money. As long as the peddlers drop some crumbs the buying public is happy, even though those crumbs cost them dearly, and accomplish little in return.
So again, no one is asking for something for nothing. I’m asking why no guru, especially the guy who claims he’s the guru to the gurus, isn’t doing more to really work with their customers and help them to be successful in the areas where they could really be of help, not just peddling products and giving out crumbs of free information with no meaningful feeling behind it other than to sell you something?
Is everyone that brain dead that they feel that these gurus are really doing all that they could be doing for their customers? What if you bought knocked down furniture and it came with some of the parts missing, incomplete directions on how to put it together, no customer service help etc. Would you feel like you got your money’s worth?
Some of the people who commented got it when they said that they knew that none of the gurus would see the benefit in working with their clients, and therefore, we should cooperate with one another and beat them at their own game.
I think whether Rich chooses to benefit MANY or FEW is his business, and whether he just might benefit you is yours to decide.
That’s what I think.
Now, here what I know…
Those who believe “lack of funding” is preventing their business success simply don’t get it … because, beyond a good idea or concept, the only thing that’s really needed is perseverance.
Can you imagine someone holding the secret to curing the common cold could not easily put to work the most effective marketing tool known: WORD OF MOUTH?
Guys,
This marketing is great. If only I could figure out how to use it for an insurance agency. I really appreciate the advice of Rich and hopefully someday will be able to use it to make my firm grow.
In terms of my response to Dennis Tays’ post, I feel the need to clarify something, lest my comments be misconstrued. Though I agree with some of the points Dennis made, I would NOT classify myself as someone who is looking for charity or a free handout. FAR FROM IT!! In fact, I’ve always been a VERY hard worker and more than willing to do whatever it takes to succeed on my own efforts….ask anyone who knows me!!
I also genuinely believe that we, as individuals, are the creators of virtually EVERYTHING in our lives, not to mention responsible for whatever we do….or don’t….create. I also concur with Rich in that anyone can be successful if they have a good plan and are willing to work hard.
The trouble is, how do you know if you have a good plan? There is SOOOO much information out there about how to succeed in the world of internet marketing, much of it conflicting. So how DO you sort the wheat from the chaff? Also, much of the information about how to succeed deals with selling information products that instruct others how to succeed selling information products….and so on. Of course, most of us agree that the entire tenor of marketing in general and internet marketing specifically is changing forevermore…..requiring new tactics to succeed….but we’re not entirely certain WHAT those new tactics should BE, which is why we count on “gurus” such as yourself, Rich, to guide us!
My question is: what happens if you have information that truly IS revolutionary….that virtually NO ONE ELSE HAS…..ANYWHERE!!! Furthermore, what if this information has the potential to impact virtually EVERYONE on the planet….in a POSITIVE way? Naturally, I want to SHARE this information with as many people as possible, however I’m not beyond admitting that I would also enjoy making some money here! I’m also smart enough to recognize, though, that the very nature of this information is likely to require specialized strategic planning….I just don’t know HOW to go about CREATING a strategic plan that is likely to accomplish BOTH of my goals. I AM DEFINITELY WILLING TO WORK AT IT THOUGH!!!
One last point of clarification: while I definitely believe in the concept of “paying it forward” (which is where I was coming from when I agreed that I’d like to see some of the existing mavens offer their services free of charge), I certainly did NOT mean to suggest that I think they should summarily hold the hand of those unwilling to do anything for themselves, until they achieve success. NOT AT ALL!! In truth, I have NO qualms whatsoever with “gurus” (or anyone else for that matter) charging for their valuable knowledge, and I am DEFINITELY willing to pay for quality coaching/instruction.
In fact, when I “put myself out there” in my previous post, inviting Rich and his team to partner up with me to bring the information I have to the world, I honestly WASN’T looking for or asking for a FREE handout! Rather, I was simply asking for some personalized attention and instruction for MY SPECIFIC INFORMATION and how to best market it….in part because I understand that the very nature of the information I have to offer is going to require strategic planning to properly disseminate, and in part because time constraints do not permit me to participate in the video contest. Even so, I would still love to be included for consideration in the “maven-making” process. At the very least, I would LOVE to learn a FRACTION of what you know Rich….and I AM willing to pay for it….so I WILL stay tuned!
I found Rich’s reply to those who posted disparaging comments here unnecessary.
(However, I completely understand how the urge to respond can be overwhelming when your blood is made to boil.)
Rich, you’re right. “You will never make everyone in your market happy.” Any attempt to do so probably is the surest path to failure.
It’s well enough that everything about Strategic Profits lays bare for all to see: A thriving business simply offers a win-win proposition that many find too good to refuse. Still, this business cannot provide value to everyone.
I don’t think dissenters here don’t “get it.”
Instead, they’re probably just frustrated (and possibly under some pressure, too) that their own unique win-win proposition is slow to blossom.
Truth is positive action cannot be forced. It must be purposeful. This also takes patience. In the interim enter frustration.
That said…
NOT EVEN A BUSINESS-IN-A-BOX CAN ALTER THIS DYNAMIC.
Click on my name. See for yourself.
Well now Dennis…
Sure, the “Mavens” found an “open and lucrative” market within the online world…and created businesses when it was “easy” to make money within that market (like it’s ever “easy” to do that)…
Isn’t that what marketing is? The ability to find those marketing opportunities Dennis? It seems as though you found one…so why aren’t you making it happen? The best business ideas in the world are consistently wasted under a thick bed of excuses and blaming others. It’s a sad thing.
Are you telling us for a second, that if you found a “wide-open” market to do the same thing in…that you would openly share all of your resources with every other person that asked to create competition within that market and dilute your share of the profit potential? Come on Dennis, really?
There is only one person that can make your business ideas and plans come to light…and that’s YOU Dennis, and you only.
You can’t rely on Rich Schefren or anyone else to give you the “keys to the kingdom”. You have to “cut those keys” yourself.
The Attention Age Doctrine was an excellent primer for “what is to come”…and if you read into it, study it, and absorb it…it gives you exactly what it is supposed to (for free by the way)…
A starting point to a million dollar business.
Period.
It has nothing to do with “caring” or not Dennis…Rich’s newest report doesn’t have any heavy promotion behind it. Like any free resource, it’s entitled to “update” you on the latest seminar or coaching program available.
The fact that Rich had this report prepared for us actually builds my respect for him. It takes time and resources to bring something like that to light (whether or not Rich outsourced the actual writing and production).
Do you have a 93 page report loaded with content ready to share with us Dennis? Coaching? If so, where is it? I would love to read it and see the resources you have available to freely share.
Joseph Ratliff
I just wanted to point out in my above comment, I was using the Attention Age Doctrine as an example, not the point of my comment. For some reason, that part of my comment did not transfer, sorry.
Rich,
I second your comments. If I had $1.00 for every “it’s your fault that I’m not successful” from my own subscribers, I could have built or purchased 100 more profitable websites.
Therefore, you upheld your honor and replied back to Dennis and the “Dennis-minded” community professionally and courteously.
–>Dennis:
You may have a great idea, but where’s your business plan?
Did you even attempt to ask Rich to see if he might be interested in looking at your business plan/ideas?
What ways have you tried to contact a busy person like Rich to get him interested in what you have to offer?
How would Rich benefit from taking a look at your plan?
The only thing I see here is you slamming the very person you think should be offering ALL of his services and million dollar insights for free.
Now, why should he even help a person who can’t even help himself? I certainly wouldn’t.
If you want success, own the responsibility required to make yourself a success.
If you need charity, ask the government. They may have some self-employment grants. Or go and present your business idea to an angel investor or venture capitalist.
See what they say.
Remember this saying….
“If it is to be, it is up to me”
Ciao!
Rich and others….have to add a small note. When someone complains- Lets call it personal responsibility….Its easy NOT to succeed when you are waiting for someone else to do it for you….makes it easy to have no responsibility (its not my fault….)
Behind every successful person on any stage is the hard work behind the scenes before they made it-they all started at zero sometime…..
Well done to rich for the quality of information he puts out (does he sleep?)
Paul
http://www.SEOTrainingLive.com/